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iPhone and iPad

By Christian Neff | Mar 11, 2010

The reporting around the iPad has some of my students interested and we have subsequently discussed it in. Klasseninterne A survey found that half of the students an iPad would prefer over the iPhone, because if they could choose. It was an interesting discussion on the pros and cons of the two devices. Here is a list of most frequently mentioned points:

iPad supporters

iPhone Supporters

Interestingly in the discussion, I found that the iPad supporters tend stressed the benefits of the new device and the iPhone in favor of the disadvantages of the iPad to "their" iPhone. But we came to the conclusion that it was very difficult to choose one or the other device. To me it was going so because both sides can I make the advantages and disadvantages for teaching. From the gut, I would currently give the iPhone because of its compact size more like a priority.

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7 Responses to "iPhone or iPad"

  1. Dirk Kuepper says:
    Mar 11, 2010 at 10:58

    Another important advantage of the speaks for the iPad (if the publishers would take part) is that one has all the textbooks on a device. This would be as it were forgotten, or never again be able to tow it!

  2. Christian Neff says:
    Mar 11, 2010 at 12:47

    A student has once again last night dealt with the question and the following written:

    The iPad ...
    ... For me the advantages and disadvantages in contrast to the iPhone. With the iPhone can make calls, photography, SMS, etc.
    The iPad is not everything. Instead, the iPad a much larger screen. So you can see all apps bigger.
    I can take pictures with my camera and then upload iPad over the computer again.
    One can also make calls with the landline home phone, and SMS can be with certain apps on the iPhone and on the iPad.
    The iPad with a front-Cam would be sensational, of course, one could even video chat.
    The iPad is for me like a small laptop with a virtual keyboard. So you can write very well, of course, e-mails and view in large resolution images.
    Also it has a brand new iTunes and AppStore, the similarities with the iTunes on the computer and the iPhone has.
    As I said there are advantages and disadvantages.

  3. Beat Döbeli Honegger says:
    Mar 11, 2010 at 3:46

    Thanks for the interview, which I find very exciting, because your class is currently the only one who can answer that question on its own iPhone experiences in and outside of school.

    The answer is unfortunately not have been as clear as I liked. I favor not one or the other answer. But a uniform opinion of the class had the device selection in future one-to-one projects (in Hamburg and elsewhere ;-) ) Simplified.

  4. Martin Hofmann says:
    Mar 11, 2010 at 7:19

    Also I find the results of the discussion very interesting. Clear results, Beat goes, there will of course never in such discussions. I also think that the answer is either iPhone or iPad in both the school and hot. Apart from pilot projects, where these devices are financed, the learners will both a phone and have a tray. I am personally believe that the tablets will replace the notebook and thus probably ultimately the iPad, Google trays, etc. to make the race. And precisely because the future educational materials are increasingly migrate to the screens. The optimization of materials for small screens is ultimately more expensive. Moreover, even the piecemeal read the content and the detection of small screens Zusammenhängenauf is often too long. One need only read Goethe's Faust times on the iPhone :-)

  5. Beat Döbeli Honegger says:
    Mar 11, 2010 at 9:03

    Hmm, read the 5th Graders actually been Goethe's Faust? I am amazed at the way myself, as I find it easy to read newspaper articles (Daily Gazette) on the iPhone. So I have no final opinion as to whether today's screens are mobile phones for primary school students actually too small. For this reason, I was very excited about the findings from the project class.

    Future devices: I am not yet so clear how this will look like in the future. Seems to me conceivable that future mobile phones at home and docked at the school at large screens or tablets, these are not transported. Heading yes both the textbook and one tablet is most probably only a superfluous weight. Even a small projector in the phone is already no longer a vision ....

  6. Martin Hofmann says:
    Mar 12, 2010 at 4:04

    Goethe's Faust in the fifth Class - no, certainly not ;-)

    The example should show only that have small screens a huge disadvantage when reading lengthy, complex texts as just Goethe's Faust. And such sophisticated literary texts are part of the general cultural heritage. For fast reading and comprehension of text relationships - no matter which school - it is often necessary to have all of the text or a longer passage in view. The only way to them, our students and later challenging texts such as books, newspapers, contracts, etc. to read.

    The iPhone and mobile phones are always in a position to dazustellen a part of a longer text on the screen. Long passages of text have to be served piecemeal. This may be problem in the school when it comes, for example, words in foreign languages to learn or to practice calculations. Also for surfing the Internet, this is sufficient. When writing e-mails and texts to get a little longer because of the limited list has its limits. In newspapers like 20minutes with Flash that has been resolved very well. Or in literary texts such as the mobile phone novels of Oliver Bendel - Lucy bitch I have myself with pleasure and without any problems on the phone in the open under the chestnut tree read - and these texts with short sentences but were written specifically for mobile phones.

    I think it's no use if I have a small projector in the phone. The problem with the longer and more complex texts persists. Even for the mathematics and other non-language subjects must quickly relationships (extensive calculations, graphs, experiments, etc.) can be acquired. The idea with the docking of larger external keyboards Bildchirmen and I think for our students to be no solution. I need the students ultimately consist of three monitors and three keyboards.

    My interim conclusion:
    For the reading of lengthy texts and the comprehension of complex relationships in mobile phones are simply not suitable!
    If educational materials concerning future will be increasingly used in digital form in the schools, we still need bigger screens and so are the iPad tablet or other appropriate than mobile phones.

  7. Patrick Kolb says:
    July 3, 2010 at 9:50

    With your iPhone project you've already been able to make substantial experience to use such devices in the classroom. The added value and opportunities and the pitfalls are apparent.

    I would be happy if I could place the learner exercises such as a iPad available to be at the copy machine for something rather than part of the snake that then before the paper arrives. Not to mention the possibilities for learning arrangements, which I can put the learners are available.
    How interactive whiteboards, the iPad offers new possibilities of interactive learning and training opportunities on a sufficiently large area. Completely refrain from teaching aids such as getting a new meaning by additional interactive content is designed: to move members of a sentence on the iPad, create sketches for geometry, coloring areas, video sequences are required in addition to a factual text, ... The Lehrmittelverläge.
    As a problem I can see that the iPhone / iPad fixed too much on the individual learning activity. Here, teachers are required.

    For me, it is clear iPad for use in the classroom because of his size advantage over the iPhone. Here is a comparison from the perspective of the learners would be interesting.
    I can read a newspaper article or a book page on the phone. I can but not to see a larger area and give me guidance in finding a passage less efficient. I go there agree with Martin Hofmann.
    We must also remember that offer a variety of media (eg sf, nzz, Radio DRS, ...) versions for mobile phone or smartphone. These are also targeted because of the small screen design.

    When making such a device "school" is, it must also robust, intuitive to use and may not be technically vulnerable.
    As you can see by the way the life in the fast moving world of technology? Let the cost for such a device by the omission of copies, textbooks, etc. as to justify?

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